Euchre is played with a partner and the American people are Trumps partner. Sometimes you get dealt such a great hand.. your partner is not needed “put ‘em down”. Trump is going solo we’re hoping he gets all 5 tricks. Mexico’s president is just table talking.
I struggled finding an image to use. I suppose I could have just used a picture of Trump. It never crossed my mind that anyone would think it was clickbait.
I keep reading opinions or likes or dislikes about the guy. And many forgetting what's at stake here. All the countries. This is the big game, not NY real estate. This could well be for everything. Against what has obviously demonstrated itself to be quite a bit ruthless. He's making moves that no one especially the bad actors seems to have been prepared for.
My personal take? What a beautiful ride it is. What a crazy rollercoaster of awesomeness. We are truly and well into a time of hyper novelty where the game has been changed forever. There is no turning back on this one. We're balls deep in some high weirdness and it's about time.
We're a bit past judgement calls. A bit past all of that. Well, it could turn out shit but at least it's different shit. Mind you, I am biased having had the unique life I have had.
You were doing pretty well, and then blew your argument in the last paragraph, painting Trump as a common “might makes right” bully. What Trump is doing is holding the rest of the world to the same standards they have unfairly held us to for decades. This worked because our politicians and MSM allowed a small group of powerful American insiders to get stinking rich at the expense of Americans as a whole.
America is stinking rich. Go to a random town anywhere in the US, you're more than likely to see big trucks and big houses with big appliances filled with big people eating lots of food.
Don't pretend that some cabal was driving policy and the little guy's been screwed. People are risking their lives to get into this country, to start well below whatever normal American you have in mind.
Correct me if I am wrong. You said, "This worked because our politicians and MSM allowed a small group of powerful American insiders to get stinking rich at the expense of Americans as a whole." The "America is rich" people in random towns with their big trucks, houses, appliances, etc. are in as much debt as the USA. The "... small group of powerful American insiders to get stinking rich at the expense of Americans as a whole," are not nor ever will be in debt.
That’s not right. Sure people have mortgages (underwritten by the gov’t) and car payments, but the median household wealth is ~$200K, and much higher than that for white people. Sure really rich people have it better - but average people in the other countries “screwing us over” don’t. And if sticking it to the rich is your thing - Trump’s not your guy. He’s culling middle class jobs in government to try to fund a tax cut for rich people.
Both MAGA and the woke left are convinced they’re getting screwed - they just don’t agree on who’s screwing them. Both could stand to be much less angry and much more grateful. But demagogues on both sides do better playing to their rage, which’ll work until it tears the country completely apart.
He’s also had plenty of other successes. Have you ever got married then divorced? Failure. Hired then fired? Failure. Didn’t save your money for rainy days? Failure. Spent too much money of stupid pointless stuff? Failure.
Bankruptcy (I have)? Failure. Charger off but not a bankruptcy (refusal to pay bills)? Failure. Had a child but ignored them (like my mother and numerous other Boomer parents) even if you paid child support? Failure. Failed business, business didn’t make any money? Failure. Hired the wrong employee for your business? Failure. Car wreck due to your own mistake? Failure. The list of possible failures go on forever.
Trump has a pretty big ego. That’s a requirement to be a real estate developer in NY and NJ. Knowing how to deal with government bureaucrats, the mafia, locals who don’t want to sell their property, etc. Trump has been through all of that and succeeded several times over. Most of us have recovered from a few failures in our lives, just like Trump.
Maybe you’re jealous. Trump is president, kicking ass and taking names, identifying government waste, already convinced some countries and others to go along with his plans. I’d say he’s pretty successful. Plus the way he built himself up, using his Hollywood friends, playing them for fools.
I didn’t vote. I might never vote again. Trump has a lot of successes and a few failures. He doesn’t need me to defend him. But I hate seeing lies and half truths being promulgated.
The "string of small business failures" was a reference to the businesses that failed because he didn't pay his bills. I should have been clearer. Of course, it would be dishonest to refer to his personal business failures as "small" since they were titanic in size. And no, I'm not judging him on his failure/success rate, I'm just providing an opinion of what motivates him. They key word being "opinion."
Yes, I'm jealous (sarcasm). Go back and read some of my articles from last year when I was defending him and praying he'd beat Harris.
That said, if you've come here for unquestioning loyalty to Trump, you've come to the wrong place.
I'm not MAGA, I don't support everything he does. I like some of what he's doing, but I judge policies individually, not based on who proposes them. Something more people should do.
Thucydides quote describes international relations perfectly, no matter in how many flowery words you wrap them. The very nature of the UN with its security council reflects. Trump simply decided that the flowery words are not necessary.
Perhaps both allies' and adversaries' words and actions _should_ be considered in OUR words and actions, for a change. Kick us & we kick back. It needn't be in the same measure, but both friends and foes have for too long been enabled to trash us with impunity, while simultaneously whining when we do the same.
I would agree this is overly simplistic. I believe Trump believes the US has neutered itself, and done so without the consent of the governed. As such, Trump would and has argued that these actions taken by former administrations controlled by the "globalists" were never made with the USA and her citizens in mind. He is re-instituting the international relations concept of national priority and advantage. He sees Mexico and Canada failing their obligations to protect incursions of their shared borders with the US and says, I don't care what "agreement" we have, this must stop. If you won't do that, I'll choke off your trade, topple your government, and deal with the next elected bunch and see if they will do better.
The alternative is to drop the 101st Airborne into Ottawa, take over the government and dictate terms for the surrender of Canada.
That seems like a lot too much to me. Using the economy focuses everyone's attention on what the priority is. There are serious people in DC now. Canada and Mexico need to get serious, quickly.
I would agree with you if he stuck to a consistent message wrt tariffs but it keeps changing. It isn't "a brilliant negotiation strategy" if the other side is never really sure what you're after.
It's also possible, preferable with allies, if you say "I want the following by x date, or I'll impose tariffs."
If you had a request, and obviously were getting stonewalled, then things get a bit dicey. I'd prefer that the original request was just agreed to. But Trudeau lied about that, which allows the gamesmanship to commence.
They knew exactly what he wanted. He spent an entire campaign cycle saying exactly what he wanted. They are still trying to do everything in their power to delay elections to allow a hand picked successor to Trudeau to become the top dog. He's only going to make it worse for Canada. There is one answer. Do what the US requested on the border. If you don't, bad things happen.
Mexico seems to be rather quiet, they resolved it pretty quickly. Why can't Canada figure that out. Trump's approval is growing, not shrinking. The biggest complaint? They still don't like his name calling/verbal jousting, which while significantly reduced is still around. Two, they want him to move faster on all of it. There is already a plurality of all US voters who want all immigration stopped. There is a much smaller cohort who want the border sealed. That would be a disaster for all of our countries, but especially Canada and Mexico.
I think this is overly simplistic. You need to go back and listen to a younger Trump discuss political ideas and principles.
The difference here with your game theory view is how fucked are the outcomes of what it seems you are calling the "rules". Frankly, the snake-oil salesmen where Clinton, Bush and Obama... their slick face of careful diplomacy was masking behavior that broke many rules... mostly the breaking of the rules for a constitutional republic and governance that would be to return outcomes for the people and not the elites at the expense of the people.
Trump is breaking things because the system as is is mess and can only be repaired by breaking things. The changes are going to upset many... Canadians booed the national anthem at the recent Montreal hockey match... and the US team proceeded to kick Canadian ass. Of course that is Montreal, and those hockey ticket prices are only for the rich... but the US pulling back from the Global Order and taking care of itself is gonna' upset the globalist looters and moochers. Fuck em' Pay for their own damn security. Pay their own damn way and stop expecting American aid. Police their own cargo and tanker ships.
The US has millions of homeless, ballooning national debt, crumbling infrastructure, Opioid deaths greater than all, reduced life expectancy and a $1 trillion dollar per year trade deficit. No country is sending the US any aid.
Inherent problem is USA< entire rest of world at once
Euchre is played with a partner and the American people are Trumps partner. Sometimes you get dealt such a great hand.. your partner is not needed “put ‘em down”. Trump is going solo we’re hoping he gets all 5 tricks. Mexico’s president is just table talking.
But where is the chart advertised?
Clickbait. :(
I struggled finding an image to use. I suppose I could have just used a picture of Trump. It never crossed my mind that anyone would think it was clickbait.
Here's the article with the chart:
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/06/11/confidence-in-donald-trump/
Sorry. I just really like charts :)
I keep reading opinions or likes or dislikes about the guy. And many forgetting what's at stake here. All the countries. This is the big game, not NY real estate. This could well be for everything. Against what has obviously demonstrated itself to be quite a bit ruthless. He's making moves that no one especially the bad actors seems to have been prepared for.
My personal take? What a beautiful ride it is. What a crazy rollercoaster of awesomeness. We are truly and well into a time of hyper novelty where the game has been changed forever. There is no turning back on this one. We're balls deep in some high weirdness and it's about time.
We're a bit past judgement calls. A bit past all of that. Well, it could turn out shit but at least it's different shit. Mind you, I am biased having had the unique life I have had.
You were doing pretty well, and then blew your argument in the last paragraph, painting Trump as a common “might makes right” bully. What Trump is doing is holding the rest of the world to the same standards they have unfairly held us to for decades. This worked because our politicians and MSM allowed a small group of powerful American insiders to get stinking rich at the expense of Americans as a whole.
Now, there’s a new sheriff in town…
America is stinking rich. Go to a random town anywhere in the US, you're more than likely to see big trucks and big houses with big appliances filled with big people eating lots of food.
Don't pretend that some cabal was driving policy and the little guy's been screwed. People are risking their lives to get into this country, to start well below whatever normal American you have in mind.
That literally has nothing at all to do with the content of my post. Let a see what other readers say…
Correct me if I am wrong. You said, "This worked because our politicians and MSM allowed a small group of powerful American insiders to get stinking rich at the expense of Americans as a whole." The "America is rich" people in random towns with their big trucks, houses, appliances, etc. are in as much debt as the USA. The "... small group of powerful American insiders to get stinking rich at the expense of Americans as a whole," are not nor ever will be in debt.
That’s not right. Sure people have mortgages (underwritten by the gov’t) and car payments, but the median household wealth is ~$200K, and much higher than that for white people. Sure really rich people have it better - but average people in the other countries “screwing us over” don’t. And if sticking it to the rich is your thing - Trump’s not your guy. He’s culling middle class jobs in government to try to fund a tax cut for rich people.
Both MAGA and the woke left are convinced they’re getting screwed - they just don’t agree on who’s screwing them. Both could stand to be much less angry and much more grateful. But demagogues on both sides do better playing to their rage, which’ll work until it tears the country completely apart.
“A string of small business failures”
He’s also had plenty of other successes. Have you ever got married then divorced? Failure. Hired then fired? Failure. Didn’t save your money for rainy days? Failure. Spent too much money of stupid pointless stuff? Failure.
Bankruptcy (I have)? Failure. Charger off but not a bankruptcy (refusal to pay bills)? Failure. Had a child but ignored them (like my mother and numerous other Boomer parents) even if you paid child support? Failure. Failed business, business didn’t make any money? Failure. Hired the wrong employee for your business? Failure. Car wreck due to your own mistake? Failure. The list of possible failures go on forever.
Trump has a pretty big ego. That’s a requirement to be a real estate developer in NY and NJ. Knowing how to deal with government bureaucrats, the mafia, locals who don’t want to sell their property, etc. Trump has been through all of that and succeeded several times over. Most of us have recovered from a few failures in our lives, just like Trump.
Maybe you’re jealous. Trump is president, kicking ass and taking names, identifying government waste, already convinced some countries and others to go along with his plans. I’d say he’s pretty successful. Plus the way he built himself up, using his Hollywood friends, playing them for fools.
I didn’t vote. I might never vote again. Trump has a lot of successes and a few failures. He doesn’t need me to defend him. But I hate seeing lies and half truths being promulgated.
The "string of small business failures" was a reference to the businesses that failed because he didn't pay his bills. I should have been clearer. Of course, it would be dishonest to refer to his personal business failures as "small" since they were titanic in size. And no, I'm not judging him on his failure/success rate, I'm just providing an opinion of what motivates him. They key word being "opinion."
Yes, I'm jealous (sarcasm). Go back and read some of my articles from last year when I was defending him and praying he'd beat Harris.
That said, if you've come here for unquestioning loyalty to Trump, you've come to the wrong place.
I'm not MAGA, I don't support everything he does. I like some of what he's doing, but I judge policies individually, not based on who proposes them. Something more people should do.
Thucydides quote describes international relations perfectly, no matter in how many flowery words you wrap them. The very nature of the UN with its security council reflects. Trump simply decided that the flowery words are not necessary.
Of course I do. But I suspect Trump has a different definition about allies and adversaries.
You don't think actions should be modified based on the relationship with the other country? Allies and adversaries should be treated in the same way?
Perhaps both allies' and adversaries' words and actions _should_ be considered in OUR words and actions, for a change. Kick us & we kick back. It needn't be in the same measure, but both friends and foes have for too long been enabled to trash us with impunity, while simultaneously whining when we do the same.
I would agree this is overly simplistic. I believe Trump believes the US has neutered itself, and done so without the consent of the governed. As such, Trump would and has argued that these actions taken by former administrations controlled by the "globalists" were never made with the USA and her citizens in mind. He is re-instituting the international relations concept of national priority and advantage. He sees Mexico and Canada failing their obligations to protect incursions of their shared borders with the US and says, I don't care what "agreement" we have, this must stop. If you won't do that, I'll choke off your trade, topple your government, and deal with the next elected bunch and see if they will do better.
The alternative is to drop the 101st Airborne into Ottawa, take over the government and dictate terms for the surrender of Canada.
That seems like a lot too much to me. Using the economy focuses everyone's attention on what the priority is. There are serious people in DC now. Canada and Mexico need to get serious, quickly.
I would agree with you if he stuck to a consistent message wrt tariffs but it keeps changing. It isn't "a brilliant negotiation strategy" if the other side is never really sure what you're after.
It's also possible, preferable with allies, if you say "I want the following by x date, or I'll impose tariffs."
If you had a request, and obviously were getting stonewalled, then things get a bit dicey. I'd prefer that the original request was just agreed to. But Trudeau lied about that, which allows the gamesmanship to commence.
They knew exactly what he wanted. He spent an entire campaign cycle saying exactly what he wanted. They are still trying to do everything in their power to delay elections to allow a hand picked successor to Trudeau to become the top dog. He's only going to make it worse for Canada. There is one answer. Do what the US requested on the border. If you don't, bad things happen.
Mexico seems to be rather quiet, they resolved it pretty quickly. Why can't Canada figure that out. Trump's approval is growing, not shrinking. The biggest complaint? They still don't like his name calling/verbal jousting, which while significantly reduced is still around. Two, they want him to move faster on all of it. There is already a plurality of all US voters who want all immigration stopped. There is a much smaller cohort who want the border sealed. That would be a disaster for all of our countries, but especially Canada and Mexico.
I think this is overly simplistic. You need to go back and listen to a younger Trump discuss political ideas and principles.
The difference here with your game theory view is how fucked are the outcomes of what it seems you are calling the "rules". Frankly, the snake-oil salesmen where Clinton, Bush and Obama... their slick face of careful diplomacy was masking behavior that broke many rules... mostly the breaking of the rules for a constitutional republic and governance that would be to return outcomes for the people and not the elites at the expense of the people.
Trump is breaking things because the system as is is mess and can only be repaired by breaking things. The changes are going to upset many... Canadians booed the national anthem at the recent Montreal hockey match... and the US team proceeded to kick Canadian ass. Of course that is Montreal, and those hockey ticket prices are only for the rich... but the US pulling back from the Global Order and taking care of itself is gonna' upset the globalist looters and moochers. Fuck em' Pay for their own damn security. Pay their own damn way and stop expecting American aid. Police their own cargo and tanker ships.
The US has millions of homeless, ballooning national debt, crumbling infrastructure, Opioid deaths greater than all, reduced life expectancy and a $1 trillion dollar per year trade deficit. No country is sending the US any aid.
Thank you.